Sciagnij sobie AVP z http://avp.gold.pl jest z pewnoscia o kilka klas
lepszy od MKS'a. Co prawda demo nie usunie wirusow, ale przynajmniej
bedziesz wiedzial co "zlapales". Nie jestem pewien czy na CD z "PC
Worda" lub "Chipa" nie ma 30-dniowych licencji.

| | Mozesz go znalezc na http://www.underground.org.pl/
| Mam pewne watpliwosci co do zawartosci tego sajtu. Sciagniety stamtad BO
| byl zawirusowany (na 99% - Win95.CIH) . Oprocz tego kolega twierdzi, ze
po
| wejsciu na glowna strone, pracujacy w tle MKS_VIR zaczal zglaszac
| komunikaty o modyfikacji jakis DLL-i systemowych. Podejrzany jest applet
| lake.class - bodajze. Nie chcialbym niczego przesadzac, ale czy nie macie
| podobnych watpliwosci?
| Pozdrawiam
| KA

--
Krzysztof Zagrodzki

UNIZETO Sp. z o.o.
ul. Krolowej Korony Polskiej 21-23
70-486 Szczecin, Poland
tel. +48 91 423-30-41          http://www.unizeto.com.pl

czy znalazł by sie jeszcze dzisiaj jakiś dobry człowiek który
przetłumaczyłby mi poniższy tekst na języka angielski...?(

W POLSCE ŻYJE OKOŁO 10000 BEZDOMNYCH LUDZI. NAJWIĘKSZY ODSETEK ŻYJE W
WOJEWÓDZTWIE WIELKOPOLSKIM ORAZ MAZOWIECKIM, A NAJMNIEJSZY W
ZACHODNIOPOMORSKIM. WIĘKSZOŚĆ BEZDOMNYCH TO LUDZIE W WIEKU 35-45 LAT I
STARSI. ONI SĄ BEZDOMNI PONIEWAŻ NIE MAJĄ RODZINY KTÓRA CHCIAŁABY Z
NIMI MIESZKAĆ. ŻYJĄ NA ULICACH I ŚPIĄ W KANAŁACH. ZARABIAJĄ NA ŻYCIE
POPRZEZ ŻEBRANIE I KRADZIEŻ.

(dane są fikcyjne, chodzi mi tylko o przetłumaczenie tego...)
Pomóżcie proszę....

#:-)
gps

willing

| They roam the streets, dwell in underground canals and scrape (out)
their
| living by begging and theft.

| #:-)
| gps

Pozdrawiam,
Hania

#:-)
gps

I and my 4 friend have passed 5 beautifulst days in Polonia !!!
We have visit Auschwitz ... i think this place don't need any other words
: TERRIBLE
I'm very SAD :-( ... I have cry for all the time ...
We have visited the Germany, France, Spain, Latvia , Czech Rep. but Poland
is differnt !!!!
Polish people are GREAT !
Lovely, funny , correct and available with the tourist !!!
Many thanks to Monika , she have rent as an beautifull apartment in the
center of the square in Old Town .
Monika and all in this news group has given optimal councils to us.
I have eat your fabulous PIEROGI and sweet cakies
Many thanks to Asia , we have "dance" :-) in UNDERGROUND disco last Sunday
night!
| |  Polish woman come from heaven !!! <<<
We have make some picture the 11-12-13 November into a ENKLAVE , ZOO and
UNDGROUND discos.... if anyone want i will send in my internet picture
book :-)

Many thanks at ALL
in particular to
Monika - Rysiek G. - Jacek Olbrys - pit. - scream - Richard - Asia

Could someone look up in a Polish-English
dictionary the verb "ryc'" - w znaczeniu
rycia pod ziemia, jak naprzyklad kret ktory
ryje swoje drozki podziemne?

  Pls. e-mail if possible, i dziekuje!

       Izabel

Nie tol'ko swiatek brytyjski, jak slyszalem, a bajka brzmi tak:
"Byl czas, kiedy W.Sz. N.Davies (jeszcze nie profesor) wybieral sie
wykladac za Ocean. Karty byly rozdane, kontrakty podpisane. Zdazyl nawet
rzucic prace na Oksfordzkim Uniwersytecie...

I wtedy ktos za Wielkim Oceanem przeczytal "God's Playground" i
stwierdzil, ze to antysemityzm. I Davies zostal na rodzimym lodzie."

Janek

| Could someone look up in a Polish-English
| dictionary the verb "ryc'" - w znaczeniu
| rycia pod ziemia, jak naprzyklad kret ktory
| ryje swoje drozki podziemne?

|   Pls. e-mail if possible, i dziekuje!

|        Izabel

I don't feel like emailing this, but I assure you I did look it up,
that is, ante... as I conjecture you already know...

[from today's rec.arts.poems]
              ...
                in boundless space wobbles the earth
                shoots of grass it stretches out to the sun
                our men root deep underground
                snouts blind as voles
                and we --
                wisdom is in our shoulders
                salvation is in sweet meat
                Tais Fryne and Judith the Jewish streetwalker

                        by Halina Poswiatowska, Polish, 1960s
                        translated from Polish by

                                Marek Lugowski
                                21 June 1998
                                Chicago, Illinois

     Polish original Copyright 1989 Wydawnictwo Literackie, Krakow, Poland:

                ("zbawienie jest w ciepl/ym futrze...")
                (p. 145 of _Wiersze wybrane_, 1989)
                -------------------------------------------------------------

"ryc'" is the least of the questions *I* have on this draft.  Could
someone give me some bits on imiona Tais Fryne i Judyty ulicznicy
zydowskiej, end of quote.

                              -- Marek

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http://www.geocities.com/kumbayaaa/pollishsovietwar1939.html

| More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
| ============
| Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
| Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
| the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
| occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
| seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
| Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
| draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
| after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
| why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

| Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
| Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
| hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
| grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
| that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
| young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
| afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
| find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
| presently in Lithuania.

| But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
| occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
| were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
| They were ususally not armed,

| Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
| Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!

| and when armed never given more than five
| bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
| (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
| each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
| the genocide.

| Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

| On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
| service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
| emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
| Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
| post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
| education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

| But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
| Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
| of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
| journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
| from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
| closed.

| The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
| longer or die now!

| Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
| ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
| While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
| intelligentia clamored for the police work.

| Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
| description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
| Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
| Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
| three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
| Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
| the noose by Jewish Policemen.

| -------------
| Jozef Pawlikowski

| We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
| graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
| ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
| dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
| ancestors, Dr Ilicki?

| Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
| your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
| bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
| other people.

| Herman
| ------------

| dddddddddd
| below, Hermie's cyberthrash
| -------------
| md

| More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
| | ============
| | Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
| | Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
| | the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
| | occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
| | seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
| | Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
| | draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
| | after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
| | why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

| | Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
| | Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
| | hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
| | grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
| | that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
| | young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
| | afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
| | find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
| | presently in Lithuania.

| | But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
| | occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
| | were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
| | They were ususally not armed,

| Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
| Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!

| | and when armed never given more than five
| | bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
| | (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
| | each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
| | the genocide.

| Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

| | On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
| | service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
| | emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
| | Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
| | post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
| | education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

| | But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
| | Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
| | of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
| | journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
| | from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
| | closed.

| The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
| longer or die now!

| Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
| ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
| | While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
| | intelligentia clamored for the police work.

| | Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
| | description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
| | Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
| | Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
| | three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
| | Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
| | the noose by Jewish Policemen.

| | -------------
| | Jozef Pawlikowski

| | We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
| | graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
| | ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
| | dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
| | ancestors, Dr Ilicki?

| Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
| your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
| bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
| other people.

| Herman
| | ------------

| dddddddddd
| below, Hermie's cyberthrash
| -------------
| md

| More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
| | ============
| | Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
| | Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
| | the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
| | occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
| | seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
| | Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
| | draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
| | after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
| | why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

| | Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
| | Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
| | hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
| | grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
| | that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
| | young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
| | afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
| | find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
| | presently in Lithuania.

| | But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
| | occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
| | were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
| | They were ususally not armed,

| Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
| Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!

| | and when armed never given more than five
| | bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
| | (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
| | each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
| | the genocide.

| Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

| | On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
| | service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
| | emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
| | Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
| | post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
| | education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

| | But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
| | Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
| | of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
| | journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
| | from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
| | closed.

| The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
| longer or die now!

| Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
| ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
| | While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
| | intelligentia clamored for the police work.

| | Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
| | description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
| | Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
| | Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
| | three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
| | Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
| | the noose by Jewish Policemen.

| | -------------
| | Jozef Pawlikowski

| | We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
| | graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
| | ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
| | dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
| | ancestors, Dr Ilicki?

| Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
| your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
| bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
| other people.

| Herman
| | ------------